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I may be a bit out of line here, I don't know if it is appropriate on this stage to present such an issue, as israel is not a politics related group, and neither am I(Keynant) prone to dealing with such issue on a personal basis.

On the other hand, I think this is a big enough issue to recieve at least decent attention.

Saying this, I am a sceptic, and so should you be, in my opinion, when reading this. I have not checked whether the accusations presented in the following article are true, and I have not checked if the admins of deviantART are dealing with this issue.

You, as a viewer, should decide for yourself.

The article in question, was written by :iconjaakobou:, and is dealing with anti-semitism in dA.

Read, decide.

news.deviantart.com/article/28…

btw, if you want to complain, suggest, or give some exposure to the article, feel free. On the other hand, if you want to make your complain/suggestion etc. to me, please, send me a note (Keynant) or leave me a comment on my page or journal.

EDIT:

I want to add a comment I got in a note, but the sender asked to stay hidden, and I'll respect that:

קראתי את מה שכתבת בדף הראשי של הקהילה הישראלית בדיוויאנטארט, ורציתי להגיב.
אני אתחיל בכך שאגיד שהסוגייה שעולה היא מעניינת ודורשת דיון והתייחסות. עם זאת, אני חייב להודות שהקישור לדבריו של
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קצת תמוה בעיני. מהכרות שטחית עם האומן אני מזהה אצלו הרבה קיצוניות. לא פעם יצא לי לפגוש עבודות שלו שבעיני, גובלות בהסתה אנטי ערבית. כמובן שמן הראוי שינתן לו חופש הביטוי גם ביצירותיו וגם בדבריו (הגם הם מעט לוחמניים מדי לטעם האישי שלי), אבל אני חושב שהעמוד של הקהילה הישראלית הוא לא המקום לתת לדברים שלו במה. מילא אם רק היו מוגזמים או רגשיים, אבל מדובר בהטחת האשמות מאוד כבדות של אנטישמיות, כשהרוב המוחלט של העבודות-לדוגמה שמופיעות בכלל עוסקות בסכסוך הישראלי-פלסטיני, וכלל לא ביהדות. ישנן אפילו יצירות שתומכות בשלום. מסקירה קצרה נראה שאותה גישה תוקפנית ויצרית לעבודות מונעת מלהבחין במסרים מקשרים ומקרבים שקיימים ביצירות מסוימות. לכן צרם לי פרסום הקישור לכתבתו, שכאילו מנסה למנוע את אותו חופש ביטוי שהוא ואחרים נהנים ממנו ביצירותיהם, שלעיתים מותחות את גבול הפוגענות, מאומנים שאינם שותפים לדעתו האישית.
חבל להשתמש בבמה הזו שפונה לקהילת האומנים הישראלים באתר עם מסרים של שנאה ותקיפה, במקום לנצל את ההזמנות שאתר כלל עולמי כזה מציע לתקשורת ודיאלוג.

I can't say that I totally agree with what was said, but I don't disagree. I had a hard time both deciding if this journal was appropriate for this kind of articles, and if I, as an admin, agree with what being said in the article.

The answer to the sender and to all to whom it may concern, is this:
I don't know. I never looked at the writer's work, neither other people's work on that matter. I do believe on the other hand, that publishing such an article, will eventually start the kind of discussion which talks about such a matter, be it on a public level in the journal or forums, on a personal level between deviants in notes, and even a reflection between the deviant and himself.
I think that such issues, no matter if they hold the entire truth or nothing but an empty shell should be discussed or at least noted.

I presented what john-doe wrote me, because I wanted to present the other side, to maybe insipre the discussion within.

If you still feel that there is no place for such an issue here, send me a note. If you feel there should be a larger place for such issues here, send me a note. By the end of the week, I'll see what happened and decide from there. The votes are to keep it.- A quick reminder, this is Keynant.

EDIT: I'm out of dA for the next two months, starting tomorrow. Bcause of that, I won't be able to reply or load new pieces. Direct your requests and comments to the other admins.
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הצטרפות לקהילה  שליחת עבודות  צ'אט

:target: JOIN OUR COMMUNITY:
send a NOTE to aphrodisiac with subject "israel".

:target: SEND YOUR ART:
send a NOTE with a link to your work to: Keynant, with additional info if you want, and he will post it here if it's Israeli related. Please limit yourself to one deviation per note, per week.

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:target: JOIN OUR COMMUNITY:
send a NOTE to aphrodisiac with subject "israel".

:target: SEND YOUR ART:
send a NOTE with a link to your work to: Keynant, with additional info if you want, and he will post it here if it's Israeli related. Please limit yourself to one deviation per note, per week.

:target: CHAT WITH OTHERS:
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:target: JOIN OUR COMMUNITY:
send a NOTE to aphrodisiac with subject "israel".

:target: SEND YOUR ART:
send a NOTE with a link to your work to: Keynant, with additional info if you want, and he will post it here if it's Israeli related. Please limit yourself to one deviation per note, per week.

:target: CHAT WITH OTHERS:
Chat with other artists from Israel + supporters. chat.deviantart.com/chat/Israe…

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:iconsabotage:
ART-DIRECTOR
:iconkeynant:

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הצטרפות לקהילה  שליחת עבודות  צ'אט

:target: JOIN OUR COMMUNITY:
send a NOTE to aphrodisiac with subject "israel".

:target: SEND YOUR ART:
send a NOTE with a link to your work to: Keynant, with additional info if you want, and he will post it here if it's Israeli related. Please limit yourself to one deviation per note, per week.

:target: CHAT WITH OTHERS:
Chat with other artists from Israel + supporters. chat.deviantart.com/chat/Israe…

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החודש בקהילה

:gummybear: :pointr: MARCH MEETUP</u>
no meetup here... sorry.
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:gummybear: :pointr: MARCH BIRTHDAYS  [FULL BIRTHDAY LIST]
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send us a note with full details if u want your name here :]

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no contests.. have an idea?

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